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Dr. Nadine Burke Harris

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Nadine Burke Harris is an American pediatrician who is the 1st and current Surgeon General of California. She is known for her work in adverse childhood experiences. Nadine visits the Armchair Expert to discuss the impact childhood trauma has on health and...

Highlights

Dr. Nadine Burke Harris, California’s first Surgeon General and a pioneering pediatrician, joins the conversation to explore how childhood adversity reshapes biology, health, and lifespan—not as abstract theory, but as measurable, preventable science rooted in clinical experience and population data.
08:40
Two-thirds of the population has been exposed to at least one category of childhood adversity
17:32
De-identified ACE screening reduces caregiver disincentives while enabling risk assessment
33:18
High ACE scores correlate with dramatically increased risk of autoimmune disease and heart disease
44:35
Oxytocin released from hugs inhibits the stress response and protects the body from its harmful effects
51:01
Two-thirds of the population has experienced childhood trauma and its far-reaching effects
1:03:14
The science of stress saved my life after losing my son in 2014
1:11:38
Racial stress triggers biological threat responses identical to physical danger
1:14:18
Lower-ranking gorillas have higher cortisol, inflammation, and illness; high-rankers spike cortisol when their privilege is threatened
1:23:56
Dr. Harris opened her clinic in an underserved San Francisco neighborhood because her parents instilled high expectations and a commitment to serving communities of color.
1:50:26
Good parents can still have issues like addiction, and early interventions—like teaching relationship skills, meditation, and sleep training—can help prevent ACE-related harm
1:53:30
Many participants dropped out of the ACE Study on obesity despite achieving weight loss
1:58:46
Tech company perks like egg-freezing payment are designed to keep employees constantly working, not just to retain them
2:09:22
Companies are beginning to offer in-house doctors as part of employee health benefits

Chapters

How a pediatrician’s clinic in San Francisco changed medicine’s approach to illness
00:00
What the original ACE study revealed—and why its design still matters today
12:04
Why your child’s stress response might be stuck in overdrive
24:13
How trauma rewires reward and relief—making addiction a symptom, not a choice
36:12
Four science-backed ways to calm a hijacked nervous system
47:34
From state policy to personal power: how California began screening for trauma
53:57
When racism isn’t just social—it’s physiological
1:06:18
Can trauma change your genes? What epigenetics reveals about inheritance and hope
1:14:18
Why serving the most vulnerable neighborhood shaped her life’s mission
1:23:56
What your ACE score really means—and what it doesn’t
1:44:57
How do we give every child the tools to thrive before crisis hits?
1:53:30
Are workplace perks kindness—or clever retention engineering?
1:56:11
What if your annual physical included a trauma-informed check-in?
2:01:29

Transcript

Dax Shepard: Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert. Ms. Padman. I'm here, You're here, I see you. I'm Dax Shepard. Today, we have Nadine Burke Harris, Dr. Nadine Burke Harris, and she is a pediatrician. And she is the first and cu...