A new format for the podcast!

With three frontier founders: Guillermo Rauch (Vercel), Blake Scholl (Boom Supersonic), and Max Hodak (Science).

01:27 AI Software Factories

04:15 Waste Tokens, Save Time

05:47 Models Instructing Humans

09:30 Is Pure Software Dead?

12:04 You Don't Get Stuck Anymore

Transcript: nav.al/tokens