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What Xi Jinping Wants

The Ezra Klein Show

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You can’t understand China today without understanding its president, Xi Jinping. Since coming to power in 2012, Xi has doubled down on communist ideology and significantly consolidated his own power while transforming China into an industrial juggernaut ...

Highlights

This episode features a conversation with Kevin Rudd, a former Australian Prime Minister and ambassador to the US, who has written a book analyzing Xi Jinping's ideology. Rudd offers a unique perspective on the Chinese leader, drawing from decades of personal interactions and academic study to explain Xi's worldview, ambitions, and strategy for China's future.
06:33
Xi saw himself as a figure of history.
32:02
Fear of capitalist erosion of communist ideology
44:12
Marxist-Leninist nationalism is Xi's core ideology.
1:04:00
Xi's ideological commitment to building a powerful industrial state remains unchanged.
1:11:29
China has shifted from copying to leading in innovation.
1:40:14
US commitment to Taiwan is rooted in congressional legislation and strategic credibility, not emotion.

Chapters

A Prime Minister's PhD: Why Kevin Rudd Decided to Study Xi Jinping
00:00
The Three Fears Driving Xi's Crackdown on Party Control
32:02
Marxist-Leninist Nationalism: The Ideology That Fuels China's Rise
44:12
Growth vs. Control: How Xi Manages China's Economic Slowdown
56:13
From Copycat to Leader: China's Strategy for Global Economic Dominance
1:11:29
The Taiwan Flashpoint: Can the US and China Avoid a War?
1:25:40

Transcript

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