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#2432 - Josh Dubin

The Joe Rogan Experience

Shownote

Josh Dubin is the Executive Director of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, a criminal justice reform advocate, and civil rights attorney.https://cardozo.yu.edu/directory/josh-dubin Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https:/...

Highlights

This conversation dives into the deep flaws embedded within the U.S. legal and criminal justice systems, exposing how corruption, bias, and outdated policies continue to devastate lives. From shocking cases of DNA theft to decades-long wrongful imprisonments, the discussion reveals how personal vendettas and institutional failures intersect. At the heart of it is a call for accountability, empathy, and systemic reform—especially in areas like clemency, drug policy, and immigration enforcement.
07:17
Ike Perlmutter is the former chairman of Marvel.
12:30
An unaccredited lab falsely matched Lori Perlmutter's DNA to hate mail evidence.
14:48
The case established critical scrutiny of forensic error rates influenced by bias
25:33
The jury awarded $50 million, indicating that Lori Perlmutter's reputation significantly influenced the outcome.
33:00
Another man, Andre Bellinger, claimed to have seen Cruz commit the crime.
37:25
The judge who denied Nelson Cruz's exoneration later resigned due to advanced Alzheimer's.
45:08
Nelson Cruz served 26 years and is still fighting to prove his innocence.
59:50
ICE is going after easy targets to meet quotas, not focusing on real criminals.
1:03:03
The man is worth pardoning and deserves a public hearing
1:06:18
Alice Johnson, wrongfully incarcerated on a drug offense, was pardoned by Trump and now advocates for second chances.
1:16:53
Michael Giles, an Air Force veteran, was sucker punched during a fight he didn't start or participate in.
1:20:38
The client shot Thrower in self-defense during a melee
1:24:20
Governor denies clemency despite fulfilled conditions and high-level support.
1:28:10
Jack Campbell had to publicly apologize and undergo racial sensitivity training after a discriminatory memo was exposed.
1:37:41
High-dose marijuana isn't suitable for everyone and may pose mental health risks.
1:40:37
Marijuana has a higher safety margin than many legal substances due to its very high LD50.
1:43:02
Legalizing drugs undermines cartels and saves lives
1:45:33
Hearst sponsored 'Reefer Madness' to protect his paper mill profits.
2:11:37
Legalizing cocaine could dismantle cartels and reduce overdose deaths

Chapters

How a tennis dispute led to a shocking case of DNA theft and false accusations
00:00
The unraveling of a hate mail scheme built on forged forensic evidence
10:58
Winning $50 million in a defamation case—and exposing a broken lab
14:48
How one trial reshaped the future of post-conviction justice work
25:33
A witness saw the real shooter—but why was the wrong man arrested?
33:00
Freed but not exonerated: the long trauma of a wrongful conviction
37:25
Why freeing the innocent doesn’t mean catching the guilty
45:08
Rebuilding a life, then facing deportation after decades in America
52:22
Sent home to a country he never knew: the cost of rigid deportation laws
1:03:03
Who really decides who gets a second chance—the politics of pardons
1:06:18
When justice fails: from mass incarceration to veteran victimization
1:13:00
A self-defense shooting that led to a 25-year prison sentence
1:20:38
Clemency within reach—then taken away at the last moment
1:24:20
Was the prosecutor’s bias part of a larger pattern of discrimination?
1:28:10
DeSantis, empathy, and the emotional void in modern governance
1:34:20
Are we addicted to control? On gambling, freedom, and personal risk
1:40:37
Why treating marijuana like alcohol could save lives and dismantle cartels
1:43:02
How a media magnate demonized hemp to protect his empire
1:45:33
From creativity to paranoia: a lifetime of changing relationships with weed
1:51:17
Planned obsolescence and punishment: why society designs failure
2:02:30
Can healing come from psychedelics—or must justice wait for reform?
2:08:37

Transcript

Joe Rogan: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Brother Joe. Good to see you again. Nice to see you, man. Josh Dubin: What's happening? Joe Rogan: Everything's happening. I got a lot on my mind. I got notes today a...