#2432 - Josh Dubin
The Joe Rogan Experience
2025/12/30
#2432 - Josh Dubin
#2432 - Josh Dubin

The Joe Rogan Experience
2025/12/30
Shownote
Shownote
Josh Dubin is the Executive Director of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, a criminal justice reform advocate, and civil rights attorney.https://cardozo.yu.edu/directory/josh-dubin
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Highlights
Highlights
This conversation dives into the deep flaws embedded within the U.S. legal and criminal justice systems, exposing how corruption, bias, and outdated policies continue to devastate lives. From shocking cases of DNA theft to decades-long wrongful imprisonments, the discussion reveals how personal vendettas and institutional failures intersect. At the heart of it is a call for accountability, empathy, and systemic reform—especially in areas like clemency, drug policy, and immigration enforcement.
Chapters
Chapters
How a tennis dispute led to a shocking case of DNA theft and false accusations
00:00The unraveling of a hate mail scheme built on forged forensic evidence
10:58Winning $50 million in a defamation case—and exposing a broken lab
14:48How one trial reshaped the future of post-conviction justice work
25:33A witness saw the real shooter—but why was the wrong man arrested?
33:00Freed but not exonerated: the long trauma of a wrongful conviction
37:25Why freeing the innocent doesn’t mean catching the guilty
45:08Rebuilding a life, then facing deportation after decades in America
52:22Sent home to a country he never knew: the cost of rigid deportation laws
1:03:03Who really decides who gets a second chance—the politics of pardons
1:06:18When justice fails: from mass incarceration to veteran victimization
1:13:00A self-defense shooting that led to a 25-year prison sentence
1:20:38Clemency within reach—then taken away at the last moment
1:24:20Was the prosecutor’s bias part of a larger pattern of discrimination?
1:28:10DeSantis, empathy, and the emotional void in modern governance
1:34:20Are we addicted to control? On gambling, freedom, and personal risk
1:40:37Why treating marijuana like alcohol could save lives and dismantle cartels
1:43:02How a media magnate demonized hemp to protect his empire
1:45:33From creativity to paranoia: a lifetime of changing relationships with weed
1:51:17Planned obsolescence and punishment: why society designs failure
2:02:30Can healing come from psychedelics—or must justice wait for reform?
2:08:37Transcript
Transcript
Joe Rogan: The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Brother Joe. Good to see you again. Nice to see you, man.
Josh Dubin: What's happening?
Joe Rogan: Everything's happening. I got a lot on my mind. I got notes today a...