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Uncapped #39 | Daniele Perito from depthfirst

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Uncapped #39 | Daniele Perito from depthfirst

Uncapped with Jack Altman

10 HOURS AGO
Uncapped with Jack Altman

Uncapped with Jack Altman

10 HOURS AGO
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Daniele Perito is Co-founder and Executive Chairman of depthfirst, an AI-native security platform that understands your code, business logic, and infrastructure to find real vulnerabilities, slash false positives, and give developers actionable fixes in th...

Highlights

In this episode, Daniele Perito shares insights from his journey co-founding high-impact companies like Faire and Cash App, before diving into the evolving role of AI in cybersecurity. From early startup pivots to building intelligent defense systems, the conversation explores how truth-seeking mechanisms—both in markets and technology—shape long-term success.
00:44
Retailers could order without paying for 60 days and return unwanted items, creating trust and reducing risk.
07:19
The market is a truth-seeking machine for business-related questions
14:35
An anxious and paranoid mindset reduced fraud losses by 80% at Cash App
16:22
depthfirst aims to secure open source software and create positive impact through AI-driven vulnerability detection
18:08
AI can detect previously undetectable security issues in code
28:40
AI can verify its own security findings by showing assumptions and process
31:15
Reinforcement learning combined with large language models can create a superhuman hacker for defense.
41:52
Analyzing 30 anecdotes provides more insight than 3,000 emotionless data points.

Chapters

Intro
00:00
The founding Faire insight
00:40
Operational rigor of marketplace businesses
04:34
Starting a company now vs in 2017
10:39
The inception story of Cash App
12:01
depthfirst’s mission
16:22
AI security landscape
18:08
Security is a fantasy world
26:10
Building superhuman attackers for defense
31:15
Roles of humans and AI in security
38:27
Platform vs pipeline businesses
39:14

Transcript

Daniele Perito: There is this saying in security circles that in order to survive a bear attack, you don't need to outrun the bear, but you need to outrun the person running next to you. That's the way that the business has been operating for a very long t...