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DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

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I’m excited to share episode one of a new podcast that I’ve helped create and produce. This new podcast is called David Senra, and it’s hosted by David Senra. For those of you not familiar with David Senra, he is an expert in all things related to greatness. He studies greatness and understands it, mostly in the domain of business but also among creatives, athletes and other world-class performers. This first episode of the podcast is with Daniel Ek, the co-founder and CEO of Spotify. It's an absolutely spectacular conversation that I'm certain you'll enjoy. With episode one of David Senra now available, please be sure to subscribe wherever you’re listening so you don't miss future episodes. You can also subscribe to the podcast on the platforms below. Spotify: https://spti.fi/TVrr557 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3WaK1S6 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@davidsenra X: https://x.com/davidsenra Chapters (0:00) Introduction from Dr. Andrew Huberman (1:13) Reflecting on a Life-Changing Conversation (2:30) Optimizing for Impact Over Happiness (5:21) The Journey of Self-Motivation (10:11) The Importance of Trust and Relationships (15:37) The Role of Criticism and Self-Reflection (17:37) The Evolution of an Entrepreneur (23:27) Building a Company True to Yourself (34:56) The Power of Trust in Business (42:25) Intellectual Humility and Learning from Others (42:49) Shadowing Leaders for Growth (45:01) Learning from Mark Zuckerberg (48:15) Balancing Personal Taste and Metrics in Product Decisions (53:35) The Evolution of Leadership at Spotify (59:13) Building a Company That Outlasts the Founder (1:15:25) Managing Energy Over Time (1:25:31) The Never-Ending Game of Life (1:25:54) Lessons from Henry Ford (1:27:08) The Value of Solving Problems (1:31:42) The Importance of Quality (1:37:20) The Power of Focus and Patience (1:54:32) Balancing Work and Life (2:00:25) The Journey of Self-Discovery (2:08:43) Final Reflections and Gratitude Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Highlights

This episode features a profound conversation between David Senra and Daniel Ek, the visionary CEO of Spotify, delving into the mindset and principles behind building enduring companies and meaningful lives. Centered on themes of impact, self-awareness, and long-term thinking, the discussion offers rare insights from one of tech’s most influential founders.
01:14
Daniel's advice was one of the few novel ideas in over 400 biographies.
02:30
True, sustained happiness comes from impact.
05:22
Self-motivation can be taught through reflection and listening.
15:05
A business is an idea that improves others' lives.
17:39
Spotify was built with a long-term vision, not for quick acquisition.
28:03
The best founders build companies true to their own nature, not someone else's model.
34:56
Trust compounds over time through consistency but can be destroyed in one moment.
42:29
Recognizing past 'stupidity' as a sign of growth and learning
42:52
Reading about leaders is different from experiencing their company culture firsthand.
45:01
Shadowing Mark Zuckerberg was an amazing way to learn company management.
51:05
Taste is judgment plus curiosity, and the best decisions come from balancing both with feedback.
54:35
Stepping back allowed the team to thrive and revealed new ways to contribute.
1:04:42
Large companies minimize mistakes, which also means minimizing brilliance.
1:25:04
Entrepreneurship is the best 'game' because it combines creation, strategy, and ownership.
1:25:33
It's a never-ending process, unlike sports; you can build your own world with control over rules and outcomes.
1:25:54
Money comes from service—Ford and Spotify succeeded by improving lives.
1:29:26
Solving problems with a small chance of success can bring great benefits to humanity
1:34:10
The greatest entrepreneurs internalize consumer needs and intersect them with expert work.
1:50:47
The difference between successful and really successful people is that really successful people say no to everything
1:57:18
Sleep used to be in two phases, guided by natural light and darkness.
2:06:23
Owe it to my past self to keep pushing forward

Chapters

Introduction from Dr. Andrew Huberman
00:00
Reflecting on a Life-Changing Conversation
01:13
Optimizing for Impact Over Happiness
02:30
The Journey of Self-Motivation
05:21
The Importance of Trust and Relationships
10:11
The Role of Criticism and Self-Reflection
15:37
The Evolution of an Entrepreneur
17:37
Building a Company True to Yourself
23:27
The Power of Trust in Business
34:56
Intellectual Humility and Learning from Others
42:25
Shadowing Leaders for Growth
42:49
Learning from Mark Zuckerberg
45:01
Balancing Personal Taste and Metrics in Product Decisions
48:15
The Evolution of Leadership at Spotify
53:35
Building a Company That Outlasts the Founder
59:13
Managing Energy Over Time
1:15:25
The Never-Ending Game of Life
1:25:31
Lessons from Henry Ford
1:25:54
The Value of Solving Problems
1:27:08
The Importance of Quality
1:31:42
The Power of Focus and Patience
1:37:20
Balancing Work and Life
1:54:32
The Journey of Self-Discovery
2:00:25
Final Reflections and Gratitude
2:08:43

Transcript

Daniel Ek: I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine. Today, I'm excited to share the launch of a new podcast that I've helped create and produce. This new podcast is hosted by David Senra. Fo...