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⚡️ 10x AI Engineers with $1m Salaries — Alex Lieberman & Arman Hezarkhani, Tenex

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Alex Lieberman and Arman Hezarkani, co-founders of Tenex, reveal how they're revolutionizing software consulting by compensating AI engineers for output rather than hours—enabling some engineers to earn over $1 million annually while delivering 10x product...

Highlights

In a world where AI is rapidly transforming how software is built, two founders are challenging the status quo of engineering compensation and productivity. By rethinking the fundamental incentives behind knowledge work, they've created a model where speed, output, and quality are not just possible—but directly rewarded.
01:34
After going AI-first, production-ready software output increased tenfold despite a 90% team reduction.
04:44
Economic incentives within the company drive faster, higher-quality output
08:12
Tenex hasn't faced client disputes over story-point assignment
11:25
An AI health coach app prototype was built in four hours, converting a hesitant client into a committed partner.
12:28
TypeScript's structure enables autonomous agents to function effectively
15:05
The limiting factor for 10X to grow bigger is human capital.
16:03
50% of candidates don't respond to take-home assignments post-AI
19:47
Small error rates in autonomous coding can accumulate and derail the system.
23:32
MCP is just a new name for an old concept aimed at attracting investors.
26:06
The consulting and digital transformation sector is seeing significant growth and will be featured for the first time.

Chapters

Introduction and Meeting the 10X Co-founders
00:00
The 10X Moment: From Hourly Billing to Output-Based Compensation
01:29
The Economic Model Behind 10X
04:44
Story Points and Measuring Engineering Output
05:42
Impressive Client Projects and Rapid Prototyping
08:41
The 10X Tech Stack: TypeScript and High Structure
12:22
AI Coding Tools: The Daily Evolution
13:21
Human Capital as the Limiting Factor
15:05
The Unreasonably Difficult Interview Process
16:02
Entropy and Context Engineering: The Future of AI Agents
17:14
The MCP Debate and AI Industry Sociology
23:28
Consulting, Digital Transformation, and Conference Insights
26:01

Transcript

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