Samm Sacks and Paul Triolo on WAIC 2026, Xi's AI Speech, and Kimi K3
Sinica Podcast
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Samm Sacks and Paul Triolo on WAIC 2026, Xi's AI Speech, and Kimi K3
Samm Sacks and Paul Triolo on WAIC 2026, Xi's AI Speech, and Kimi K3

Sinica Podcast
1 DAYS AGO
In this special in-person episode recorded from Beijing, Kaiser Kuo is joined by China tech experts Samm Sacks and Paul Triolo, fresh from the World Artificial Intelligence Conference in Shanghai. They dissect the key developments and geopolitical undercurrents shaping the AI landscape, from Xi Jinping's landmark appearance to the latest model releases and U.S. policy reactions.
The discussion centers on Xi Jinping's first in-person WAIC appearance and his most extensive AI statement, which emphasized 'secure and orderly development' and signaled China's intent to lead on AI safety and governance, particularly for the Global South. The launch of the World AI Cooperation Organization (WAICO) with 29 founding members offers concrete deliverables like AI training slots, though skepticism about follow-through remains. The hosts analyze Moonshot's Kimi K3, the fourth frontier-class Chinese model released in a month, highlighting the closing gap with U.S. labs despite export controls. They explore the U.S. push to restrict Chinese open-weight models, noting the irony that many American companies rely on them, and the challenge of finding effective policy tools. The conversation also covers the rise of AI agents, which are upending data protection regimes and super-app models, and the complex meaning of 'ānquán kěkòng' (secure and controllable). Finally, they preview the upcoming U.S.-China AI dialogue, emphasizing the need to break a negative securitization feedback loop and address China's exclusion from programs like Mythos, all while the rapid pace of recursive self-improvement in AI makes this a critical moment for cooperation.
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Now six layers with law added by Angela Zhang.
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AI integration across China's entire economy
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Xi Jinping's first in-person appearance at WAIC
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China evolved on AI safety but was excluded by the US.
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China focuses on societal stability while the U.S. prioritizes catastrophic risks.
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Less focus on existential threats in China
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30:09
AI policy gravity shifts from Beijing to Shanghai
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Kimi K3 is competitive with top closed models in coding and agentic tasks.
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Open-source models find vulnerabilities closed models cannot.
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Real regulation, not FUD.
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China is ahead in grappling with these issues
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1:02:28
Trust is the core bottleneck for AI interconnection.
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1:17:28
The clock is ticking as RSI could have effects within 12 months.