The Gaslighting & Conversation Expert: This Is A Sign You’ll Divorce in 10 Years!
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
2025/12/22
The Gaslighting & Conversation Expert: This Is A Sign You’ll Divorce in 10 Years!
The Gaslighting & Conversation Expert: This Is A Sign You’ll Divorce in 10 Years!
The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
2025/12/22
In this insightful discussion, trial lawyer and communication expert Jefferson Fisher unpacks the psychological dynamics behind powerful conversations, drawing from courtroom strategies to reveal how presence, authenticity, and emotional control shape influence and respect in every area of life.
Fisher emphasizes that true communication power lies not in volume or aggression but in calmness, pausing before responding, and maintaining emotional composure—traits that build trust and authority. He distinguishes gaslighting from disagreement by intent: manipulation seeks control, not mutual understanding. Narcissistic behavior, often rooted in insecurity, collapses when met with non-reaction, as they depend on provoking emotional responses. Authenticity is revealed through subtle cues like genuine presence, natural laughter, and avoiding 'bestie bombing.' Setting boundaries, resisting over-explanation, and removing distractions like phones enhance connection. In relationships, lasting success depends on navigating conflict constructively, practicing empathy through tools like energy check-ins, and addressing underlying emotional needs rather than surface issues. Leadership and likability alike stem from being grounded, specific in communication, and consistently present.
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The goal of conversation isn't to win, but to resolve—sometimes an apology is enough.
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People look for an anchor in conversation who listens more and doesn't impose ideas
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How an attorney walks away from a judge can signal confidence or defeat to the jury.
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Aura is a frequency of peace that makes others feel comfortable
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Authentic people are unrushed and don't need to prove themselves to others
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Gaslighting involves making someone question their reality through manipulation.
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Good liars can manipulate reality to the point of believing their own lies
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Dealing with a narcissist involves limiting interaction and not playing their praise or provoke game.
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Narcissists change their stance instantly when they think others disagree
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Being unbothered is not indifference—it's self-understanding.
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Knowing yourself prevents others' words from affecting you
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Admitting your emotional state can build trust in difficult conversations
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Men showing emotion can help women become more composed
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Phone arguments are symptoms of disconnection; address the need behind the behavior
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Having clear 'no's makes managing other aspects of life easier
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Kindness requires truth; niceness avoids conflict.
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Spending habits may stem from childhood lack and relate to self-worth.
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'Bestie bombing' is a sign of insecurity, not manipulation.
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Presence is the highest form of authenticity; people remember how you make them feel
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Giving time feels like receiving; treating everyone equally benefits all.
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Phones act as pacifiers that weaken real connection during conversations.
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Phones have become an emotional pacifier, reducing face-to-face communication
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True confidence means acknowledging one doesn't know everything, which makes one sound more genuine.
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The ability to take time to think in conversations signals respect and confidence.
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Calmness is contagious and helps others distinguish between minor and major issues.
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Stay silent when insulted to make the aggressor reflect on their words
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Asking genuine, curious questions can disarm an aggressive person by forcing them to confront their behavior.
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Many divorcing couples fall out of communication, not love.
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The way parents handle conflict—not their marital status—predicts child well-being
