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How to Overcome Addiction to Substances or Behaviors | Dr. Keith Humphreys

Huberman Lab

2 DAYS AGO
Huberman Lab

Huberman Lab

2 DAYS AGO
In this in-depth conversation, Dr. Keith Humphreys, a leading expert in addiction and psychiatric policy, explores the biological, psychological, and societal dimensions of substance use and behavioral addictions. The discussion moves beyond surface-level narratives to examine how brain science, personal history, and environmental design converge to shape addictive behaviors.
The podcast examines the complex nature of addiction, emphasizing genetic predispositions and neurobiological mechanisms that increase vulnerability, particularly for alcohol, cannabis, opioids, and gambling. Modern substances like high-potency THC and engineered digital platforms exploit brain reward systems, making recovery more challenging. Evidence-based treatments such as 12-step programs, especially Alcoholics Anonymous, show strong outcomes due to social support and behavioral reinforcement, while emerging therapies like psychedelics, ketamine, and TMS offer promise but face scalability and standardization hurdles. The role of environment is critical—social cues, marketing, and accessibility heavily influence use patterns. Effective interventions include early behavioral analysis, peer support, and structural changes like regulation of addictive industries. Crucially, relapse is reframed not as failure but as part of recovery, and sobriety's tangible benefits—improved health, relationships, and self-respect—serve as powerful motivators. The conversation also highlights systemic issues, including Medicaid’s role in treatment access and the dangers of pharmaceutical advertising, while underscoring that genes are not destiny: recovery is possible through sustained effort and supportive communities.
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Recovered addicts may shift to new compulsive behaviors as the underlying predisposition finds a new outlet
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8%–10% of people experience alcohol as energizing and more rewarding due to genetic factors
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Cancer risks from alcohol exceed any potential heart benefits, with no net mortality reduction from drinking.
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One should consider genetic predisposition, weigh cardiac benefits against cancer risk, think about vulnerabilities of actions and words when drinking, and then make an informed decision.
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Many cannabis edible products are poorly made with unevenly distributed ingredients
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Frequent cannabis use undermines short-term memory, concentration, and motivation.
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Slot machines now generate over 80% of casino revenue by exploiting the brain's craving for novelty, not winning.
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Kids are more likely to have trouble with alcohol than cannabis.
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Clinical use of psilocybin shows 60-70% relief for major depression
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TMS can change lives for those with treatment-resistant depression.
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Nolan Williams' Ibogaine work showed documented brain changes in PTSD patients
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Untreated ADHD may pose a greater addiction risk than using stimulant medications.
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Relief from withdrawal is often mistaken for a drug's beneficial effect.
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Many Americans are in recovery, and early-stage recovery has higher success odds.
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When addicts get sober, their true selves emerge, revealing the distortion caused by addiction.
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Addiction can significantly change a person over time, causing mismatched marriages not from poor initial choices but personal transformation.
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Nucleus accumbens activation predicts relapse better than self-reporting in methamphetamine addiction
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91% of people seeking alcohol treatment were pressured to quit, showing the role of external motivation in recovery.
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A recent budget bill cuts about a trillion dollars from Medicaid over the coming years, threatening addiction treatment access for low-income Americans.
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AA and 12-step facilitation counseling showed high abstinence rates in a Cochrane review
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AA is not a cult as it doesn't take members' money and allows anyone to leave freely.
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Patients on Ozempic reported reduced alcohol cravings as a side effect
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Society must build social norms around social media like those for alcohol
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Genes are a risk, not destiny—recovery can break the chain of addiction in one generation.
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The Big Book uses stories to show recovery is possible for everyone
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Being the last friend of the dying is an honor and helps overcome fear of death.
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Heavy substance use is often an attempt to escape unpleasant truths like death, suffering, or abuse.
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Not using substances is the best way to avoid addiction.